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Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2023 7:25 pm
by Scruffy Bodger
LynehamHerc wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:36 am I wasn't certain where to put this but here seems as good as anywhere:

Physical buttons outperform touchscreens in new cars, test finds

https://www.vibilagare.se/english/physi ... test-finds
I posted this a while back

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish ... urt/199594

He was charged under the same law governing mobile phone use while driving, which also refers to touchscreens and says they must only be used with a brief glance while driving, with the driver having to allow for weather, visibility, plus traffic and road conditions.

The driver appealed to a higher regional court, arguing that adjusting the wipers was a safety matter. However, the court disagreed, saying it didn’t matter why he had been looking at the touchscreen while he was driving.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:16 am
by FatherJack
I am readily allergic to the phrase "Sensible Choice" and this phrase immediately leaps out when you come straight out with the ppm.

Suddenly its like choosing a laser printer or a pair of handcrafted brogues, these will be ideal, not fun but suited for a bit of walking about.

If I could justify a Dodge Hellcat RedHaze for a once a month commute, mostly sideways like my trousers are on fire, that would be fun.
I have been to Cambridge once, took many hours to get there but in a ZS180 not very long to get back, step away while you still can.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:52 pm
by treehugger

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:55 pm
by Warren t claim
I fear that Jaguar has bet everything on EVs.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:02 pm
by LynehamHerc
Yep, but as I understand it they plan on relatively small volumes in a market that isn't very price sensitive. A lot of the parts will also be shared with the LR EVs so they'll get economies of scale.

I reckon that if they can produce cars that people desire, like the E Type once was, they'll be coining it in.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:05 pm
by Warren t claim
LynehamHerc wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:02 pm Yep, but as I understand it they plan on relatively small volumes in a market that isn't very price sensitive. A lot of the parts will also be shared with the LR EVs so they'll get economies of scale.

I reckon that if they can produce cars that people desire, like the E Type once was, they'll be coining it in.
Do you really think that's likely though?

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm
by Hooli
I'd say that business model won't work as electric crap will never appeal to people with brains, but then I look at society...

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:18 pm
by LynehamHerc
I really don't know.

Given how successful Rangies are and the very high prices they command it'll depend on whether that pompous prick McGovern can imbue Jags with the same sort of desirability. That also assumes that they are given all the resources they need and a realistic long term business plan that's more in terms of decades than years.

If Jaguar produced and publicised separate accounts I'd expect massive losses for the first few years, propped up by RR cash flows. TATA will need to keep their nerve.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:18 pm
by Warren t claim
Hooli wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:15 pm I'd say that business model won't work as electric crap will never appeal to people with brains, but then I look at society...
JLR just wants to appeal to people with money.

Re: Electric vehicles, pros and cons. Have your say.

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:20 pm
by Warren t claim
LynehamHerc wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:18 pm I really don't know.

Given how successful Rangies are and the very high prices they command it'll depend on whether that pompous prick McGovern can imbue Jags with the same sort of desirability. That also assumes that they are given all the resources they need and a realistic long term business plan that's more in terms of decades than years.

If Jaguar produced and publicised separate accounts I'd expect massive losses for the first few years, propped up by RR cash flows. TATA will need to keep their nerve.
The only way for Jaguar to turn a profit is for them to coax Egan out of retirement.