Eddie Honda's wheels of steel (and occasionally alloy)

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Re: Eddie Honda's wheels of steel (and occasionally alloy)

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Scruffy Bodger wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:44 am They are definitely ageing gracefully and a really good looking car imo, I wonder how many will survive the period they are in now?
Well doing a quick tally of all the floppy top variants.

Peak = 7722

2021 Q1 taxed = 573
2021 Q1 SORN = 1217

Currently 23% left going by the peak figure.
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Was it rattly before you did the rockers or did you do them as a matter of course.
I didn't realise they still made engines with adjustable tappets.
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It wasn't tappet rattley. On these they should be checked every 30k, but it's not a job many can be arsed doing.

Apart from the double-plug nonsense, it has TIMING CHAIN (I can't be arsed with doing belts)
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Jizz update 9th July 2021 (1/2)

Like a scrab you can't resist picking at, the (lack of some) dashboard lights was bugging me. The backlights to the heated rear window/mirrors and A/C button were out. The final straw was when the wee blue light on the aircon button was not working.

Now all you need to do is remove the switches to get at the bulbs. However to remove those switches half the dash has to come out.

First up remove the single screw under the rotary blower switch

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Then unclip the cover

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Getting your head underneath those controls there are a couple of wiring plugs to disconnect.

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There's a couple more screws buried up and under on either side.

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The radio needs to come out as it's all on the same piece of fascia plate, but before you can do that, you need unclip and disconnect the 3 heater control flap wires so you have enough slack to pull everything out. To get to those, the glovebox insert needs pulling out. The big bastard is that there are six clips that hold the radio in at the front. Even looking up the manual is fucking useless. In the end I managed to use a 3/8" extension bar on a ratchet handle to lever the unit from behind. It feels like you're going to break something then it eventually gives.

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Then the two switches can be got at from behind and pushed out

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What a palaver

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Jizz update 9th July 2021 (2/2)

Warning: EXPLICIT LIGHTBULB CONTENT

You can see the four wee round bulb holders in the switches here. Two are backlights and two are "on" indicator lights.
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Rather than replace the whole unit, I unhooked the wires from the base

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Then removed the coloured party hat to reveal the naked incandescent bulb.

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Then fuck about putting that johnny bag back on and bend the legs back round the base.

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I didn't have an aircon indicator bulb of the right wattage, so had to do the same radio removal shit on the old "spares" car to borrow one.


With the switches out of the way there are four backlights round the big rotary radio switch one or two which had blown. Honda don't list these separately on the parts list, but they are removable.
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There's also another (up under the letter E) that is soldered in, but that was still working

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There's another three on the main board soldered - two to light up the 1-6 buttons and one up the top for CD eject backlight. All working.

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After all that and having checked that they worked, I plugged it back in the car.

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Oh cock! The did work (depsite what the photo shows), but they weren't as bright as the rest. I think they must be 80ma bulbs and I only had 40s and 60s. Fuck it. Threw it all back together in a hump.

I might just fit a double-din unit to it and save a load of cocking around...or maybe not. There's something quite pleasing about a "does what it says on the tin" factory radio.
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Eddie Honda wrote: Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:48 am
Scruffy Bodger wrote: Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:44 am They are definitely ageing gracefully and a really good looking car imo, I wonder how many will survive the period they are in now?
Well doing a quick tally of all the floppy top variants.

Peak = 7722

2021 Q1 taxed = 573
2021 Q1 SORN = 1217

Currently 23% left going by the peak figure.
Still plenty left then in reality even if most of those are currently off the road.

Nice work with those fiddly little bulbs, I take it there are no LED replacements you could source now, they should be fit and forget at such a low wattage.
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Scruffy Bodger wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:49 pm Nice work with those fiddly little bulbs, I take it there are no LED replacements you could source now, they should be fit and forget at such a low wattage.
There are loads of LED replacements, but I want my dash lights to have a piss-trickle glow and dim properly with the dimmer knob.
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Failed trailer collection - Saturday 10th July
Re-attempt - Friday 16th July
LED trailer light bollocks


So with the car serviced and everything well, it was time to nip over to borrow a car trailer from the same top bloke as last time.

However the collection went tits up as upon plugging it in the trailer lights weren't doing what they were meant to.

Tail lights - okay
Brake lights - okay
Right indicator - flashing, but also flashing right brake light
Left indicator - flashing, but also flashing both indicators and rear brake lights.

Bollocks.

Yer man's suggestion was the wiring on the Jizz, as his Landcruiser was operating them fine. It wasn't the trailer wiring as I rewired the whole lot October 2019 when I last borrowed it as the monkey previously paid to do the job maid a right arse of it with twisted together wires, etc. Anyway, an hour was wasted mostly trying to put the 12N socket back together on the car to which nothing was found wrong with. I had my doubts as I'd been towing my own trailer recently without issue.

I thought it might be the LED lights on the trailer, so went off back home to RTFM of my Jizz wiring kit.

Re-read the IKEA-like instructions and nothing was forthcoming. Downloaded a more up-to-date set of instructions and found this panel which isn't in the earlier ones:

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This wanking warning box wasn't compatible with LEDs. Now I could of pissed about with some load resistors on the trailer, but I didn't want to go there. I wanted to just sort the car. What I need was "an upgrade" (read robbing you a second time) of this 52400006:

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Now it may be an AFC in German, I think it could be called a Trailer Interface Module (TIM) in English or just a fucking expensive trailer flasher relay 52400570:

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I phoned four trailer/towbar places in Dublin. Two didn't have a fucking clue what I was on about and two had clue but didn't have anything like it in stock. So it was time to fuck the local economy and shop abroad.

First I found PF Jones didn't have it on their website, but did have an ebay listing - £73 and over £70 in shipping/export fees on top of that. WTF? I phoned them to see what the story was and they said postage to Ireland was £9.50.....but they haven't had one of those in stock since late last year and it may take "up to 8 weeks" to get one. "So WTF are you listing them on ebay for?". "Don't know, I'll have to ask our ebay department".

Then I spot the unit required for £62.50 (ex-VAT) at Anglia Towing Centre showing a stock of 8. I quickly mash the keyboard, see the £25 shipping and checkout at £87.50. Dash off to work, then find an email following the order up. "Our minimum order to ROI is £150, is there anything else you'd like to bring it up". No thanks, your checkout is shit not flagging that up before taking the money. I understand it may be due to new VAT rules. Just refund me it, I'll get one from Germany.

Now the cheapest in Germany is less than €55 (inc. VAT, ex-shipping),

https://www.qp24.de/de/led-afc3-modul-1 ... 570/347270

However, DOES NOT SHIP TO IRELAND.

They have an Amazon.de store - DOES NOT SHIP TO IRELAND.

Out of idle curiousity, I check Amazon.fr - SAME FUCKING GERMAN COMPANY - Sold and shipped by qp24. Shipping to Ireland €15.08. Click, click, click. Bought.

Now I'm expecting wholly to get a cancellation of the above order, but no it goes through on Wed 14th and arrives on Mon 19th. Thought it would take longer.


Rewind to Thursday 15th, and in desperation to get this car trailer moved from North to South Dublin, I buy a universal bypass relay (PCT ZR2000) kit for around €45 (containing wiring and 12N plug, etc. I'll use it on another motor eventually).

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There's no way I'm going to rip my plug-in wiring loom out and fit it, but I will tin the ends of the wires with solder and jam it into the multi-plug and use a couple of split pins as jumpers.

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As shown earlier in the thread. It did the job


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Yer man didn't have his Landcruiser handy, so I had to pull the trailer out of the drive so he could take the Lexus off. I made it out onto a busy Friday rush hour M50 and N7 and didn't get had by the guards.
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You're begining to look like Ireland's answer to McGyver or the A Team.
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At least you can replace the bulbs in yours.

I've got a few lights out for the gearshift in the XJR & they are all LEDs soldered on to PCBs so I've not bothered.
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