I'll replace all the tyres as they're all perished. Front are the worst.
Brake pipes definitely need doing as pretty nasty. They can't/won't do it as they are unsure if their scantool can do SBC. It's a Snapon Solus so it possibly can but tbh they're so busy that I think they'd rather not anyway. There is Merc specialist they recommend to me not far away where they send customers with awkward Merc problems.
This is the offside front that I saw the other day to give an idea. Personally I think a bit too far gone for a rub down and paint.
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
Start soaking the brake calliper bleed nipples now.
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
Interestingly Rust Collector on Autoshite did his just using a pressure bleeder:
https://autoshite.com/topic/56148-2003- ... nt=2901739
If his icarsoft can bleed them then I imagine my Foxwell or any other Chinese type scan tool can do them now too. Probably not that dissimilar to bleeding an ABS pump really.
https://autoshite.com/topic/56148-2003- ... nt=2901739
If his icarsoft can bleed them then I imagine my Foxwell or any other Chinese type scan tool can do them now too. Probably not that dissimilar to bleeding an ABS pump really.
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
Last time I worked in a main dealer, brakes were bleed using a diagnostic tool.
TBH those brake pipes would probably clean-up
TBH those brake pipes would probably clean-up
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
Diag tool is the proper way to do it. But sounds like providing you don't put air into the SBC, using a pressure bleeder works absolutely fine. However if there is a button to hit on a scantool then it'll make it even easier as no need to much apart from opening the bleed nipples. At least this doesn't (afaik) have a brake master cylinder (at least in a traditional sense) to bugger up from pumping the brakes.AutoshiteBoy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 5:37 pm Last time I worked in a main dealer, brakes were bleed using a diagnostic tool.
TBH those brake pipes would probably clean-up
Possibly clean up and paint but I don't know how far it goes. I don't really fancy working on a car outside in this weather either.
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
SBC hydraulic circuit. Looks pretty straightforward tbh.
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Those pipes look pretty crusty, maybe a gentle poke when you can manage without it would be in order to assess them better, also there's previous little grease on those to warrant the advisories
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
I thought he would've failed those tbf. Why aren't they coated?
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
Corroded, covered in grease OR other material.DodgeRover wrote: ↑Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:55 pm Those pipes look pretty crusty, maybe a gentle poke when you can manage without it would be in order to assess them better, also there's previous little grease on those to warrant the advisories
Just a one of the catch all pre-canned advisories.
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Re: Sics Consolidated Moderns Thread - 2003 Mercedes-Benz E320 Estate
I have spoken to them before on this and it's nearly impossible to judge. So it inevitably ends up being a benefit of doubt unless it's leaking or about to. The garage is around the corner from the DVSA so usually play everything safe and to the book.
Like the tyres passed as they're perished but they have to be bad enough to see the cords to fail. Hence pass and advise. He did say they were horrible and needed doing.
The MOT manual says the following (highlighting is mine):
There would have been a coating on them 20 years ago when it left the factory.1.1.11. Rigid brake pipes
If the metal brake pipes have surface dirt that needs to be removed before it’s possible to assess their condition, you can lightly scrape the pipe with a specialist brake pipe corrosion tool or the corrosion assessment tool ‘spade end’. It must be done with care so that any protective coating does not get damaged.
Chafing, corrosion or damage to a rigid brake pipe so that its wall thickness is reduced by 1/3 (approximately 0.25mm for typical hydraulic brake pipe) justifies rejection, although it’s accepted that this is not easy to determine. If you are not sure whether the pipe is sufficiently deteriorated to justify rejection, you should give the benefit of the doubt.
Repairs to the pressure lines of hydraulic brake systems are unacceptable unless suitable connectors are used. Compression joints of a type using separate ferrules are not suitable.
Unacceptable repairs to brake lines should be failed using RfR 1.1.21 (d)