1969 Reliant Regal 3/30 saloon

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Re: 1969 Reliant Regal 3/30 saloon

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Cheeky bastard!

Where I lived in the west of Scotland, half-decent used cars weren't that cheap. You were possibly looking at around £250 for something with MOT and a bit of tax.

My brother had a B-reg Citroen 2CV Dolly (green/white) that he bought for £250 around 1991. He flipped that a month later for £475.

My first road car was a yellow 1980 Citroen Dyane 6 which was bought locally at the very end of July 1991. It lasted a couple of months until the MOT ran out and it was scrapped. That cost £75 and gobbled up another £75 for a pair of Michelins. It was already hanging at 11 years old and had some welding done to one side of the floor and had a rather crusty windscreen surround. (There must be photos of this somewhere, but not in my possession)

The second road car was also bought locally, this time for £250. It was a 1968 Wolseley 16/60 automatic in blue/white and was missing it's original interior, instead having a red A60 set of seats (disclaimer, I didn't paint that shite on the bootlid - I covered it up with two rows of electrical tape).
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This was fine for wafting around in, but it wasn't particularly fast (single 1¼ SU on a 1622cc B series) and whilst owning this I was looking around for something cheaper on the petrol and less effort on the body. The conclusion was to get a Regal as the Robin was a bit new for my tastes and Rebels were even thinner on the ground (I'd missed out on a very well sorted Rebel in Clydebank for £375 before I ended up with the Wolseley)

As well as the local supermarket ad boards, newsagents shop windows, Scottish Motor Mart, local papers, the search included combing the Exchange and Mart which is where I found this one. Arrangements were made and trailer procured and towed by my dad in his Volvo 240 estate.

It was a bit of trek, but I don't particularly remember them being ten-a-penny. I don't remember much about the trip down to Goring-on-Thames, but I do remember the vendor and his most fabulous boat house full of antiques and some of the things down below the house in the dock, including some sort of vintage boat bike like this sort of thing:

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The car wasn't stored there, so we had to drive round to some farm nearby. We followed him in his car which turned out to be a lovely old red Citroen DS. The deal was done and the car loaded onto the trailer to head back north to Scotland.
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Re: 1969 Reliant Regal 3/30 saloon

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Wulzy was a long way from home with that Hampshire reg.
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What's the 3/30 designation? Wheels and horsepower?
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Subject to rounding. The workshop manual states max power at 27.5 bhp @ 5000 rpm. A later brochure I have states 29 bhp @ 5000 rpm.

The 700cc Rebel is down as 31 bhp @ 5000 rpm but that has a high compression ratio (8.4:1 instead of 7.3:1)
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Many16/60's I've come across were automatics for some reason. Heres my Reliant.
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It was a £20 a while back but I didn't keep it for long as it had no heater and I went back to using the MZ for work- a bit warmer. Sold it for £200 I think, doubtless just for the plate. I remember the Reliant being especially awful on backroads when there was a hump of hardened snow in the middle- you got in everyone's way as you slithered from one side to another. Would appreciate it more now though,
The CF behind was new. I did some driving for a local garage and it had just been nicked from their hire fleet. They had a call from Bill saying it had been found in Toxteth and I hitched up to fetch back it for them. There it was parked at the centre of the riots, battery still present and charged and the wires ready bared for a quick escape. It looked fucking grim up there.
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Predictably, the plate is now on a modern Porsche (although its MOT expired earlier this month....) I'd sooner have that Reliant meself......
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I looked over one of those Mk1V Reliants last year, 1956 it was but I wanted a Regal or a Supervan so I turned it down.
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I've dug out the number plates.
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A lovely old set of retro-reflective Jepson flat riveted digits to BS AU 145

Redundant now as I have to re-register the vehicle here in Ireland, but I can't do that just yet. As it is boxes of bits and doesn't pass the "mechanically-propelled vehicle" definition for registration, they won't let me. I could make an appointment, but I'd be turned away if I show them the vehicle in pieces on a trailer/in the back of a van. So I haven't bothered. This may/may not be complicated by Brexit, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

The process is as follows:

1) Book an appointment for a VRT (vehicle registration tax) inspection
2) Turn up with paperwork and vehicle and the vehicle details are checked (chassis no. etc.)
3) Get issued a registration, but I bet this won't happen immediately as the NCTS won't have a statistical code for it. It will be then referred to Revenue to get such a code.
4) When Revenue come back with a stat code, registration can be completed.
5) Index issued can either be a modern format 69-KE-nnnnn (16001+) or a ZV nnnnn as it is over 30 years old.

The ZV series is an unused Dublin allocation, but divided in batches across all 26 counties. When they ran out of the first allocation of 3 and 4 number serials, instead of flipping it to nnnn ZV, the lazy bastards just added a fifth digit WHICH LOOKS EVEN MOAR RONG.

Previous cars of mine have had 4 digit ZVs because I was living in County Dublin at the time and they hadn't used up their 2nd allocation. Hence I have 8990, 9446, 9860. They changed the computer system 5th December 2011 and they missed out 9890 to 10000, restarting at 10001. As I live in County Kildare now, I supposed for 11nnn plate I could register it in a relative's name first. Otherwise I'll end up with something like ZV 37nnn.

Of the plate style, it may end up with black 'n' whites as retro-reflective plates weren't a thing here until 1st December 1969.

I'll have to rummage round the local regs but I might not be legally obliged to fit a front number plate.

Annual motor tax on a 30+ year old motorcycle is €26 p.a. compared to €88.

They currently don't do any periodic technical inspections (MOT) on any motorcycles or tricycles.

This vehicle doesn't attract €200 VRT like other cars imported that are over 30 years old, but a big fat ZERO. This is because it is assessed under VRT rules for motorcycles and motorcycles over 30 years old attract 100% discount on the cc formula. This also means that any penalties for late registration don't apply either.
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Sheddy wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:21 pm I looked over one of those Mk1V Reliants last year, 1956 it was but I wanted a Regal or a Supervan so I turned it down.
1956 would be a Regal Mk III or mibbie a IV. (I can't remember the minor differences between the Marks)

When they went over to their all-aluminium OHV engines in 1962 (after the Regal Mk VI), the naming changed to 3/25 (598cc) and in 1968 3/30 (701cc). (The vans were Supervan, Supervan II and Supervan III) Very late ones would have the 748cc engine used in the Robin Mk1.
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Sheddy wrote: Sun Dec 27, 2020 1:21 pm I looked over one of those Mk1V Reliants last year, 1956 it was but I wanted a Regal or a Supervan so I turned it down.
I'd imagine its hard to find a Supervan thats not been trotterised these days. I think I'm right in saying the final Mk type Reliants had the vestige of a reverse moulding above the back window, they were obviously dipping a toe in the water.
My mate picked up a prostitute in his Mk V- not for real but a '50's kerb crawling scene for aTV drama. The street was cobbled and the flimsy passenger seat's backrest collapsed on the poor girl as they scuttled along. Afterwards some of the younger folks gathered round the car were asking me if people really used to drive around in them. I despair, I caught a scene from the same programme over this holiday where a cabinet style 405 TV had a colour picture.
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