The Dark Wob

chadders wrote: ↑Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:37 pm Had they fixed the rust issues by then?

Yes. Well mostly. C Class rear subframes rust nicely. That gen E Class is a decent car, E240 petrol is the best bet.

AutoshiteBoy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 09, 2021 10:39 pm The problem is, speaking as a warranty engineer, the wiring looms and the like are sub contracted to the lowest cost producing nation. The components, material and build are generally shit so when there is a problem, the car is approaching scrap value.

From a short term business perspective it makes sense. You need to take into account residuals for a few years so that it remains valuable enough so that lease rates don't get hammered. After that they're not bothered about the later users in my opinion.
Whilst I was qualifying I worked in a biscuit factory. The ingredients of a biscuit were calculated to something like a tenth of a penny.

As SiC has started sending secret messages here's mine:

STD

And it's not Sexually Transmitted Disease

mercrocker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:02 am Do you know what......I think I would actually be better off with a 100E....No, make that a 107E. Fucking weirdo side-valves, worse than canbus.

I always wanted a 107e which I believe only came about because the Anglican was 2 door only. My 100e was spoiled by that gruesome engine and 3 speed box- the gap between 2nd and 3rd was like the grand canyon. Otherwise a fine car.

Bangernomics wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:20 am Is the v8 in them a ford job or bought in?


Less annoying tag line.

Yamaha iirc?

cros wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:24 am

mercrocker wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 12:02 am Do you know what......I think I would actually be better off with a 100E....No, make that a 107E. Fucking weirdo side-valves, worse than canbus.

I always wanted a 107e which I believe only came about because the Anglican was 2 door only. My 100e was spoiled by that gruesome engine and 3 speed box- the gap between 2nd and 3rd was like the grand canyon. Otherwise a fine car.

Think the 107E was just a stop-gap until the Consul Classic was ready (not that those had a great innings either) and ran alongside the 100E "New" Popular which in itself only existed as a "lowest priced car" loss-leader. A surprising number still about, probably because the engine and transmission lasted more than 40,000 miles.......

Sidevalve Ford club is pretty active and there's always plenty to be seen at shows. I might be wrong but I think an oil filter was an optional extra. Proper mingebag motoring.

Ford were perverse in those days. They build two 1172 sidevalve engines in the fifties that had very few common parts. The cheaper one lacked replaceable crank bearing shells, oil and air filtration, lacked proper crankcase ventilation and even a water pump. Heres one I endured earlier.

100E's, Zephyrs 1-3, Classics etc were the last properly built Fords. From the 105E onwards they just seemed to be rot boxes. Escorts were terrible.

I'm always amazed how solid derelict 100Es often are. The vans and estates seemed to suffer more, though.

Another car I can vouch for as being built to impossibly high standards yet using old tech is the Burnaston-built Toyota Avensis (petrol).