BBC News - Rochford fire: Hundreds of cars destroyed in blaze
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-66484853
CoPart. Suspect its not related to climate change.
So, price of used parts and write offs to rocket?
Fire!!!
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Re: Fire!!!
Wonder if a damaged EV set it off, can't imagine shifting them on the forks and putting them on racks will do much for them?
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Re: Fire!!!
DodgeRover wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 9:36 pm Wonder if a damaged EV set it off, can't imagine shifting them on the forks and putting them on racks will do much for them?
Fast forward to 26 mins 50 seconds. The batteries can be "quite dangerous so they store them in a fireproof container"...
I was tempted to drop that into the AS EV thread but couldn't be arsed.
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Re: Fire!!!
They almost seem like a religion to people like Kiltox so I'd expect them all to pile in on you.
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Re: Fire!!!
Presumably the same deal with old petrol? It's quite dangerous so it's stored in a (approved) fireproof container.Scruffy Bodger wrote: ↑Sat Aug 12, 2023 10:40 pm The batteries can be "quite dangerous so they store them in a fireproof container"...
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Re: Fire!!!
Wouldn't the equivalent be all the scrap cars having full tanks of petrol though and I dont believe a cars petrol tank is fireproof?
My understanding, and it's very hazy going back to A level Physics and Chemistry and seeing a lithium demo, that they're also very difficult to stop once they're going.
My understanding, and it's very hazy going back to A level Physics and Chemistry and seeing a lithium demo, that they're also very difficult to stop once they're going.
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Re: Fire!!!
An electric cars battery pack casing isn't fireproof either. However a storage tank for waste petrol will almost certainly be fireproof so it doesn't readily melt in a fire.
Shorting a battery either externally or internally (from physical damage) releases a huge amount of energy very quickly. This causes a cell to overheat very quickly and hence catch fire. However the amount of energy stored depends on how much charge it has. A flat (empty) lithium battery cell doesn't catch fire from a short. Remote control enthusiasts leave a bulb or such type of load connected to a battery pack to fully discharge it before disposing of the cells. This reduces the energy to almost zero.
There isn't actually that much lithium content in a cell either. Just they're made of flammable materials like plastic and many of them together releases an awful lot of energy quickly.
But then so does the fluids in a car. Brake fluid is especially volatile and burns well once going.
Scrapyard fires are nothing new. Just new, novel hazards that need to be be dealt with that are different from the ones before.
Shorting a battery either externally or internally (from physical damage) releases a huge amount of energy very quickly. This causes a cell to overheat very quickly and hence catch fire. However the amount of energy stored depends on how much charge it has. A flat (empty) lithium battery cell doesn't catch fire from a short. Remote control enthusiasts leave a bulb or such type of load connected to a battery pack to fully discharge it before disposing of the cells. This reduces the energy to almost zero.
There isn't actually that much lithium content in a cell either. Just they're made of flammable materials like plastic and many of them together releases an awful lot of energy quickly.
But then so does the fluids in a car. Brake fluid is especially volatile and burns well once going.
Scrapyard fires are nothing new. Just new, novel hazards that need to be be dealt with that are different from the ones before.