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Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:20 pm
by SiC
Interesting fact. Despite that 'stang being an 60s American machine, its dimensions are only a couple inches smaller than our family wagon A4 estate. So much for old American cars being apparently massive and unwieldy.

My god do I want that car.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:33 am
by frustrator
Junkman wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:51 pm Shitting Nora!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-130-Coupe/143339108462
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OMG even shittinger Nora!

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Fuck me laterally.
Want level is extreme

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:37 am
by Junkman
SiC wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:20 pm Interesting fact. Despite that 'stang being an 60s American machine, its dimensions are only a couple inches smaller than our family wagon A4 estate. So much for old American cars being apparently massive and unwieldy.

My god do I want that car.
A Mustang isn't big. It was based on the compact Falcon.
A '68 full size Ford is 27.5 inches longer and 5.5 inches wider than an Audi A4 estate. Mind you, this was an ordinary family car over there, nothing special.
The next generation, the 1969 to 1978 full size cars, grew to a whopping 36.5 inches longer and seven inches wider than an Audi A4 estate, tipping the scales at 4,300 lbs in base trim. With approximately 7,850,000 full size Fords and Mercurys produced during this period, they were Ford's best selling platform since the Model T at the time.

So much for old American cars being massive and unwieldy.

BTW, time moved on and Ford announced last Summer that they have built the ten millionth Mustang.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:01 am
by Junkman
frustrator wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:33 am
Junkman wrote: Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:51 pm Shitting Nora!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-130-Coupe/143339108462
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OMG even shittinger Nora!

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Fuck me laterally.
Want level is extreme
You can now also want Japan's inept attempt to copy it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/173970044192
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Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:15 am
by mercrocker
How does that Isuzu seller work out the pre-dating the Dino Coupe bit?

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:09 am
by Junkman
An Isuzu 117 Prototype was shown at the 1966 Geneva Show. The Dino Coupe was unveiled at the same show a year later. Guigiaro indeed used the 117 design as the basis for the Dino Coupe.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:49 am
by SiC
Junkman wrote: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:37 am
SiC wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2019 11:20 pm Interesting fact. Despite that 'stang being an 60s American machine, its dimensions are only a couple inches smaller than our family wagon A4 estate. So much for old American cars being apparently massive and unwieldy.

My god do I want that car.
A Mustang isn't big. It was based on the compact Falcon.
A '68 full size Ford is 27.5 inches longer and 5.5 inches wider than an Audi A4 estate. Mind you, this was an ordinary family car over there, nothing special.
The next generation, the 1969 to 1978 full size cars, grew to a whopping 36.5 inches longer and seven inches wider than an Audi A4 estate, tipping the scales at 4,300 lbs in base trim. With approximately 7,850,000 full size Fords and Mercurys produced during this period, they were Ford's best selling platform since the Model T at the time.

So much for old American cars being massive and unwieldy.

BTW, time moved on and Ford announced last Summer that they have built the ten millionth Mustang.
If I remember correctly, the Mustang isn't actually a muscle car but a pony car? Muscle cars being based on full sized platforms.

Also please tell me that those sixties Mustangs are exceedingly shit and I'd seriously regret selling everything automotive I own to buy one.

The new modern Mustang isn't actually that much difference in size to our A4, which surprised me when I parked next to one the other month.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 12:52 pm
by Junkman
Mustang, Camaro/Firebird and Challenger/Barracuda, the fish that got trampled in the Ponycar stampede, are compact based, i.e. Falcon, Nova, Valiant, respectively. A Muscle Car is a high performance version of a car based on an Intermediate platform, initially they simply were somewhat basic Intermediates with a big engine lifted from the options list for the full size cars. Early on the Detroit automakers agreed on not offering engines larger than 400 CI in an intermediate, but that was soon widely violated.

I only had one Mustang in my life, but I was very happy with it. It was a '68 convertible in Sunlit Gold Poly with Ivy Gold interior, with the 390, auto, power disk brakes, power steering, power convertible top and GT 'wide' wheels options. It was fast, nimble and 100% reliable, pretty much exactly what I am not. I updated* it with radials and gas shocks, but reverted to the original setup soon afterwards because the ride and handling had become too harsh.
Of all classics, 60s Mustangs are among the easiest ones to live with as daily drivers. Would I want another? Yes, make mine a '73 in 6E yellow with the black decor package and the 351-4V Cleveland.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:00 pm
by John F
It always makes me sick in my mouth a little bit when yanks call those massive land-whale things of theirs "full-size cars", as if they're claiming the right to decide what full-size actually is.

Just fuck off yanks, you cunts.

Re: EBay Finds

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:07 pm
by Junkman
"Full Size", "Intermediate" and "Compact" are American standards set by American consumer groups for the American home market. I don't quite understand why the Americans should be the only ones in the world not having consumer standards.