Land Rover Rustorashun and other shit
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
another busy week doing shit that I really hadn't planned for.
Started this time last week, left Devon for home at 3ish, just after 3:45 and 12miles into my journey the ungrateful fucker shat a core plug. Luckily I was 300 yards from a layby and not on a motorway.
Called Fathathestag to give me a tow home but we decided that was not a sensible option, weather was shit etc etc. called RAC and Fatha gave me a ride back to his house. 2h 45mins later and RAC van rocked up, nice chap tried to wedge the core plug back in that I took with me as a joke when driving back to site. Ended up connecting me to a pole and towing me 11 miles back. bit hairy but ok. Lucky that RR has an electric pump for brake booster, unlucky that it has mechanical power steering.
Buggered off home next morning to make sure I could make oldest thestag's 21st B'day celebs.All of the lads were home.
Monday, battery was too low to start! Plus all electrics under bonnet soaked with antifreeze from plug that shat after charging and drying stuff out car started and sounded fine for relocation into barn next morning, removed starter motor and refitted core plug then retorqued all head bolts because 500miles since replacement all back up and running, sounds peachy! BUT every time I drive through a puddle my nose picks up a whiff of OAT... I guess because the underside of the car is coated with it yootoob video of the whole sweary debacle is right here
Started this time last week, left Devon for home at 3ish, just after 3:45 and 12miles into my journey the ungrateful fucker shat a core plug. Luckily I was 300 yards from a layby and not on a motorway.
Called Fathathestag to give me a tow home but we decided that was not a sensible option, weather was shit etc etc. called RAC and Fatha gave me a ride back to his house. 2h 45mins later and RAC van rocked up, nice chap tried to wedge the core plug back in that I took with me as a joke when driving back to site. Ended up connecting me to a pole and towing me 11 miles back. bit hairy but ok. Lucky that RR has an electric pump for brake booster, unlucky that it has mechanical power steering.
Buggered off home next morning to make sure I could make oldest thestag's 21st B'day celebs.All of the lads were home.
Monday, battery was too low to start! Plus all electrics under bonnet soaked with antifreeze from plug that shat after charging and drying stuff out car started and sounded fine for relocation into barn next morning, removed starter motor and refitted core plug then retorqued all head bolts because 500miles since replacement all back up and running, sounds peachy! BUT every time I drive through a puddle my nose picks up a whiff of OAT... I guess because the underside of the car is coated with it yootoob video of the whole sweary debacle is right here
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in Southpaw (1990 2 door RR RHD conversion) news, the horizon has been slightly brighter.
Battery was refitted, alas not being the correct type (I didn't supply it) the +ive and -ive terminals were the wrong way round initial electric tests were fine but then got progressively more and more weird. Things that were working stopped working etc etc etc. turned out to be be earth related. Much diagnosis and consultation with wiring diagrams helped me to the solution front wipers were next in line to hack the fuck out of my normally mild mannered temperament!
No wipers at all turned out to be; conumn control that wont work in Hi speed and Wiper motor that would only work in Hi Speed!!!! Once I figured that the next wiper motor wouldn't work self park, finally managed to get it resolved and signed off but honestly 2 hours !! car is haunted wipers working and rack fixed to the bulkhead, the whole area was prepped with Dynax s50 odds and sods were prepped for a rattle can treatment to freshen them up and protect again rustage Electric window loom was made up from a 4 door loom and tested just fine. Window switches will end up on the lower dash somewhere. customer doesn't want a centre console unit excess wiring destined for under seat and centre console area was trimmed out RH indicator tell tale wasn't working - or so I though.. brain wasn't working LHD speedo was in KM/H hence second hand unit in MPH but 1988 speedo head unit had separate LH and RH tell tales for the indicators. 1989 had one tell tale for both but it was in the same place as LH tell tale. quick fiddle had the correct template installed and MPH speedo head this is the correct bit and there's more....
Battery was refitted, alas not being the correct type (I didn't supply it) the +ive and -ive terminals were the wrong way round initial electric tests were fine but then got progressively more and more weird. Things that were working stopped working etc etc etc. turned out to be be earth related. Much diagnosis and consultation with wiring diagrams helped me to the solution front wipers were next in line to hack the fuck out of my normally mild mannered temperament!
No wipers at all turned out to be; conumn control that wont work in Hi speed and Wiper motor that would only work in Hi Speed!!!! Once I figured that the next wiper motor wouldn't work self park, finally managed to get it resolved and signed off but honestly 2 hours !! car is haunted wipers working and rack fixed to the bulkhead, the whole area was prepped with Dynax s50 odds and sods were prepped for a rattle can treatment to freshen them up and protect again rustage Electric window loom was made up from a 4 door loom and tested just fine. Window switches will end up on the lower dash somewhere. customer doesn't want a centre console unit excess wiring destined for under seat and centre console area was trimmed out RH indicator tell tale wasn't working - or so I though.. brain wasn't working LHD speedo was in KM/H hence second hand unit in MPH but 1988 speedo head unit had separate LH and RH tell tales for the indicators. 1989 had one tell tale for both but it was in the same place as LH tell tale. quick fiddle had the correct template installed and MPH speedo head this is the correct bit and there's more....
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
Here we go - another weekend down the Swanee watching UTubes of a Posh Sweary Bloke!
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next key step is fuel line. For the VM installation the fuel supply is up the passenger side chassis rail, for the TDI it is drivers side rail. had to remove both feed and return lines, hence quite a bit of small fuel spillage This feller is the fuel sedimenter, attaches to the shock mount on the rear axle. it allows water and diesel to separate and only diesel to head to the filter in the engine bay. It was caked in sand and mud. After a clean up it was mounted to the drivers side rail. fuel lines were shifted across and extended. Only one part of thee feed had an issue that was cut out and replaced with fuel friendly hose and clamps new accelerator cable was fitted, which snapped as soon as I pressed the throttle pedal... For Fucks Actual Sake As LH and RH cables are exactly the same length but with different part numbers for some inexplicable fucking reason I reused the OE LHD cable that the car came with.
Cranked engine with a view to bleeding fuel through to new filter and it fired first click, let it idle for 60 seconds and fuel was coming through the bleed screw on the filter. Piece of piss, honestly Air filter was replaced, old unit weighs 5 times new unit. manly Spanish sand and dust cleaned up rear end of chassis so I could install rear bumper. Managed to liberate over a kilo of sand and mud but also found a couple of holes in the rear cross member. Will patch it but ultimately it will need replacing in the next year tidied the loom and installed the middle and lower dash sections installed the deck panel and trimmed out the passenger door. Next week I am hoping to get MoT done!
next key step is fuel line. For the VM installation the fuel supply is up the passenger side chassis rail, for the TDI it is drivers side rail. had to remove both feed and return lines, hence quite a bit of small fuel spillage This feller is the fuel sedimenter, attaches to the shock mount on the rear axle. it allows water and diesel to separate and only diesel to head to the filter in the engine bay. It was caked in sand and mud. After a clean up it was mounted to the drivers side rail. fuel lines were shifted across and extended. Only one part of thee feed had an issue that was cut out and replaced with fuel friendly hose and clamps new accelerator cable was fitted, which snapped as soon as I pressed the throttle pedal... For Fucks Actual Sake As LH and RH cables are exactly the same length but with different part numbers for some inexplicable fucking reason I reused the OE LHD cable that the car came with.
Cranked engine with a view to bleeding fuel through to new filter and it fired first click, let it idle for 60 seconds and fuel was coming through the bleed screw on the filter. Piece of piss, honestly Air filter was replaced, old unit weighs 5 times new unit. manly Spanish sand and dust cleaned up rear end of chassis so I could install rear bumper. Managed to liberate over a kilo of sand and mud but also found a couple of holes in the rear cross member. Will patch it but ultimately it will need replacing in the next year tidied the loom and installed the middle and lower dash sections installed the deck panel and trimmed out the passenger door. Next week I am hoping to get MoT done!
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
You forgot the best* bit about those sedimenters, the plastic drain screw that snaps as soon as you look at it.
I never did find out why TDi RRs and Discos had then but the same age and engined Defenders didn't. If anything I'd expect it to be the other way around.
I never did find out why TDi RRs and Discos had then but the same age and engined Defenders didn't. If anything I'd expect it to be the other way around.
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yep, and this one had but had been filled with glue or something. anyway I tipped it upside down with all 4 plugs removed from the top end and all the water and shit dripped outHooli wrote: ↑Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:39 pm You forgot the best* bit about those sedimenters, the plastic drain screw that snaps as soon as you look at it.
I never did find out why TDi RRs and Discos had then but the same age and engined Defenders didn't. If anything I'd expect it to be the other way around.
one chappy suggested removing the bowl and getting rid of the cheese like remains of the old plug before fitting an m8 bolt. but then I would need new seal rings and to be honest I simply couldn't be arsed
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I never replaced the seal when I cleaned mine out. It's just a square section O-ring rather than a gasket type thing anyway.
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This last week has been a bit shit, parts have been my issue here
On Southpaw first, got the dash into shape, signed off all electrics except the headlight wash doesn't work. Fitted door trims also for comfort decided to clean sand from rear cross member before rear bumper went on, air blower did this! just because a car is from warmer climes doesn't mean that it isn't rotten. In this case the rear crossmember box section was part filled with sand, reckon on this car doing some wading on the beaches, salt water goes in, cannot easily get out of the rear cross member and has eaten away a sizeable chunk. Other than the hole section the rest is in good order, I did break rules 1 through 18 by welding patches over the holes. The cross member is likely to need replacing in the next year / maybe two so I didn't waste time trimming and butt welding steel in next up is the timing belt, change every 60k unless it is used in hot and dusty climate in which case 30k (miles) no history on this engine at all so it is getting changed, these are the water pump bolts and the timing cover bolts, some were rusty, all went in bone dry this is the original belt, good news it that it is dry, there is some oil residue around the crank hole. Both pulleys ran free, no signs of nastiness with the belt. but it is getting replaced. Now where did I put the kit.... Ah yes here it is Fucking pile of shitpart, honestly What a bunch of cunt, I went out of my way to buy 200tdi belt kit that didn't include shitpart, I could have saved £10 on the shitpart kit from the same fucking supplier who shipped this crap. Customer services have asked me to send photos, which i did on Thursday midday. since then not a fucking jot. Buying elsewhere now and not SHITPART, Buy SHITPART buy twice - and I am not even started yet While we are in anti shitpart and paddocks mood, here is the fucked throttle cable Oh and to top it all the engine fan that Paddocks advertise as 200tdi, just aint. Guess who makes it? Go on guess
Bunch of cunts that's who
GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Still at least Shgitpart cannot fuck up a cooling hose, nope Paddocks can though by shipping two heater inlets on the same part number rather than what I requested.
oh dear
On Southpaw first, got the dash into shape, signed off all electrics except the headlight wash doesn't work. Fitted door trims also for comfort decided to clean sand from rear cross member before rear bumper went on, air blower did this! just because a car is from warmer climes doesn't mean that it isn't rotten. In this case the rear crossmember box section was part filled with sand, reckon on this car doing some wading on the beaches, salt water goes in, cannot easily get out of the rear cross member and has eaten away a sizeable chunk. Other than the hole section the rest is in good order, I did break rules 1 through 18 by welding patches over the holes. The cross member is likely to need replacing in the next year / maybe two so I didn't waste time trimming and butt welding steel in next up is the timing belt, change every 60k unless it is used in hot and dusty climate in which case 30k (miles) no history on this engine at all so it is getting changed, these are the water pump bolts and the timing cover bolts, some were rusty, all went in bone dry this is the original belt, good news it that it is dry, there is some oil residue around the crank hole. Both pulleys ran free, no signs of nastiness with the belt. but it is getting replaced. Now where did I put the kit.... Ah yes here it is Fucking pile of shitpart, honestly What a bunch of cunt, I went out of my way to buy 200tdi belt kit that didn't include shitpart, I could have saved £10 on the shitpart kit from the same fucking supplier who shipped this crap. Customer services have asked me to send photos, which i did on Thursday midday. since then not a fucking jot. Buying elsewhere now and not SHITPART, Buy SHITPART buy twice - and I am not even started yet While we are in anti shitpart and paddocks mood, here is the fucked throttle cable Oh and to top it all the engine fan that Paddocks advertise as 200tdi, just aint. Guess who makes it? Go on guess
Bunch of cunts that's who
GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH
Still at least Shgitpart cannot fuck up a cooling hose, nope Paddocks can though by shipping two heater inlets on the same part number rather than what I requested.
oh dear
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Re: Land Rover Rustorashun
still at least I can burble around in my daily
except that it shat another core fucking plug! There is a very fruity video of the moment, I may post it when analysis is complete
Guess what colour bag they came in?
Yep
Replaced it, all went in the Stag Wellseal - recognised quality sealant.
Pressurised the system cold and all plugs are holding. Thought hmmm steel plug and alloy block!
Warmed the car a little, stuck the pressure pump on the cooling system and pumped it up to 10lb
Popped underneath and all 6 are leaking. Holy Crap!
So I bought some 1.5" core plugs from a UK based supplier of Core/Freeze plugs.
Oh goody lets measure them. Fore you who are not familiar the cup is slightly wedge shaped so that the cup locates and then when tapped home the rim (fnarr) is larger and thus seals against the block
Britpart minimum measurement 38.03mm
Britpart max measurement 38.25
OE UK Quality brand Minimum measurement 38.28
OE UK Quality brand Max measurement 38.55
Honestly .3mm might not seem a lot, but with expansion on alloy block being faster than steel plug cunts (fucking 3 c bombs in 2 posts and that is being polite)
.3mm is 4 sheets of printer paper just in case you need a reference.
Next I need to replace all 6 core plugs before i can use the car again. Then I will publish my findings on Youtube
Shit part are now largely OE supplier for JLR classic parts.
except that it shat another core fucking plug! There is a very fruity video of the moment, I may post it when analysis is complete
Guess what colour bag they came in?
Yep
Replaced it, all went in the Stag Wellseal - recognised quality sealant.
Pressurised the system cold and all plugs are holding. Thought hmmm steel plug and alloy block!
Warmed the car a little, stuck the pressure pump on the cooling system and pumped it up to 10lb
Popped underneath and all 6 are leaking. Holy Crap!
So I bought some 1.5" core plugs from a UK based supplier of Core/Freeze plugs.
Oh goody lets measure them. Fore you who are not familiar the cup is slightly wedge shaped so that the cup locates and then when tapped home the rim (fnarr) is larger and thus seals against the block
Britpart minimum measurement 38.03mm
Britpart max measurement 38.25
OE UK Quality brand Minimum measurement 38.28
OE UK Quality brand Max measurement 38.55
Honestly .3mm might not seem a lot, but with expansion on alloy block being faster than steel plug cunts (fucking 3 c bombs in 2 posts and that is being polite)
.3mm is 4 sheets of printer paper just in case you need a reference.
Next I need to replace all 6 core plugs before i can use the car again. Then I will publish my findings on Youtube
Shit part are now largely OE supplier for JLR classic parts.
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